{"id":2093,"date":"2012-03-03T19:37:11","date_gmt":"2012-03-03T19:37:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/?p=2093"},"modified":"2013-01-05T08:37:18","modified_gmt":"2013-01-05T08:37:18","slug":"what-price-work-experience","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2012\/03\/03\/what-price-work-experience\/","title":{"rendered":"What Price Work Experience?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What do students know about life beyond academia? I touched on this in my <a href=\"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2012\/02\/27\/what-next-and-how-to-get-there\/\">last<\/a> post, and this week two reports have been published which are relevant to this theme and the overall \u2018student experience\u2019, loosely interpreted. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vitae.ac.uk\/\">Vitae<\/a> published a report on \u2018<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vitae.ac.uk\/CMS\/files\/upload\/WDRWTD-The-career-intentions-of-doctoral-graduates-Feb12.pdf.513571.download\">What do researchers want to do: the career intentions of doctoral researchers<\/a>\u2019\u00a0 which has some results which may seem surprising to those who have followed earlier blogposts from OT bloggers including myself (for instance <a href=\"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2011\/10\/31\/david-willetts-and-the-round-table\/\">here<\/a>). The second report was commissioned by the Government and headed up by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unite-group.co.uk\/about-us\/board-members\/professor-sir-tim-wilson.go\">Sir Tim Wilson<\/a>. Entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bis.gov.uk\/assets\/biscore\/further-education-skills\/docs\/w\/12-610-wilson-review-business-university-collaboration\">\u2018A review of business\u2013university collaborations<\/a>\u2019\u00a0 it looks at the whole interface between business and universities, including examination of the implications for both undergraduates and postgraduates.\u00a0 These reports both make telling comments and recommendations, implicitly and explicitly, about how students \u2013 during both undergraduate degrees and their PhD\u2019s \u2013 are exposed to and consider life beyond academic walls.<\/p>\n<p>A couple of posts written earlier this year on OT from Jenny Rohn (<a href=\"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/mindthegap\/2011\/08\/02\/in-which-my-heart-goes-out-to-postdoc-b\/\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/mindthegap\/2011\/10\/07\/in-which-we-lay-hands-on-an-oil-tanker\/\">here<\/a>) and Tom Hartley <a href=\"http:\/\/tomhartley.posterous.com\/the-tailwind-and-the-headwind#more\">elsewhere<\/a>\u00a0 have suggested that there are insufficient openings for dedicated postdocs who want to find academic openings. Although that may still be perfectly true, the Vitae report suggests that actually <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">more<\/span> people stay in academia after their PhD\u2019s than intended to do earlier on, with approximately twice as high a percentage staying on to do research in HE in the biological (27%) \u00a0and biomedical (23%) sciences than set out intending to do so during their PhD (13% and 12% respectively); the difference is much less marked in the physical sciences (19% versus 16%). Perhaps this merely says that the more you do biological research the more you learn to love it and that undergraduate degrees give you no indication of the joys of exploring something no one has ever considered before. However I must admit I was very surprised to find the following as Vitae\u2019s recommendations<em>:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Recommendation: <\/em><\/strong><em>In order to assure a flow of talent into research in higher education and beyond, government, funders and institutions should consider how to most effectively promote research careers to young people.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Recommendation: <\/em><\/strong><em>Institutions should explore how to promote doctoral research opportunities and research careers to high calibre students, in the light of potentially increasing competition from employers from non-higher education.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>If the anxiety expressed by<a href=\"http:\/\/scienceisvital.org.uk\/2011\/10\/06\/careering-out-of-control-a-crisis-in-the-uk-science-profession\/\"> Science is Vita<\/a>l and many others about the bottleneck in careers for postdocs progressing to independence is real, as I\u2019m sure it is, then these recommendations may not be wisely applied in the sciences. Otherwise we may just find the situation degenerating further.<\/p>\n<p>A point of concern raised by Vitae is that remarkably few postgraduates had troubled to visit their careers\u2019 service, approximately a third of those interviewed in their final year; a staggering 40% had never used the service at all at any point during their stay at university. Nevertheless, despite this omission, two thirds seem to have thought they would have benefitted from doing so (and those who had done so seemed broadly satisfied). More women than men seemed to think they would have liked more support on this front, but often the desire was to have had it before they ever entered university. With the cutting of careers\u2019 advisors at school (a website seems to be regarded as just as good by the powers that be) this situation is not likely to improve.<\/p>\n<p>One final point of note from the report is the relatively low numbers of students who had undertaken any work experience during their PhD\u2019s; in the sciences the average was around 12%,. Indeed students in the physical sciences had almost the highest percentage overall \u2013 as high as 43% &#8211; who had never participated in any sort of work experience at either undergraduate or postgraduate level; only arts and humanities students had less exposure at 45%. This topic ties in directly with several of the recommendations from the <a href=\"http:\/\/nds.coi.gov.uk\/content\/Detail.aspx?ReleaseID=423474&amp;NewsAreaID=2\">Wilson report<\/a> (there are 30 substantive recommendations in all) about work experience at different points in the academic pathway:<\/p>\n<p><em>Recommendation 4, paragraph 4.5.2 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Ideally, every full<\/em><em>\u2010<\/em><em>time undergraduate student should have the opportunity to experience a structured, university<\/em><em>\u2010<\/em><em>approved undergraduate internship during their period of study. Where such internships are paid, government should examine the feasibility of supporting companies that host students through a tax credit or grant mechanism. Where internships are unpaid, universities should use their \u2018OFFA funds\u2019 to support eligible students rather than condone a policy that could inhibit social mobility. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Recommendation 5, paragraph 4.5.2 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The government<\/em><em>\u2010<\/em><em>supported graduate internship programme should be continued. However, recognising the constraints on the public purse, it is recommended that only companies entering into the graduate internship programme for the first time are supported by a one<\/em><em>\u2010<\/em><em>off subsidy. Repeated graduate internships are for the company and\/or the university to fund. For the avoidance of doubt, the use of a university\u2019s \u2018OFFA funds\u2019 should not be permitted to support unpaid graduate internships.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Recommendation 16, paragraph 5.6 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>All full<\/em><em>\u2010<\/em><em>time postdoctoral research staff should have the opportunity to benefit from 8 to 12 weeks\u2019 of work experience outside academe every three years during their contract. They should receive career guidance from the university\u2019s professional staff each year of their employment as an integral part of their appraisal, and be encouraged to attend a short intensive enterprise skills programme alongside postdoctoral staff from other departments of the university. For the avoidance of doubt, these measures should be integrated within the contracts of postdoctoral research staff and, where possible, embedded within external funding arrangements. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>So, work experience should be seen as integral and every student should have the opportunity to benefit although, as can be seen by the qualifying statements in these recommendations (which I have deliberately quoted in full), the source of funding is likely to be a tricky issue. However, the Wilson report was specifically asked to consider university interactions with <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">business<em>.<\/em><\/span>\u00a0 Just as was the case in the Willetts roundtable I attended last year discussing postdoctoral careers this, I feel, narrows the field of opportunities in ways that I think are unhelpful. The current scheme of internships at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.parliament.uk\/post\">POST<\/a> offers PhD students the chance to look at science policy and interact with politicians and civil servants. Two of my own students have participated; one is now working in science policy but the other found it interesting although not for them. Both students found the exposure to this very different world informative and valuable. How are we going to get more scientifically literate politicians, like my own Cambridge MP (Dr) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.julianhuppert.org.uk\/\">Julian Huppert<\/a>, trained in physics and chemistry, if we don\u2019t let students get closer to Parliament upon occasion? What about science communication or journalism more generally? What about school teaching? Surely we should be doing more to offer opportunities away from the usual meaning of the word \u2018business\u2019 for students as well as expose them to the world of industry and commerce?<\/p>\n<p>The Wilson Report covers far more than just this narrow emphasis on work experience, and highlights the importance of strong, sustainable links between our universities and industry for innovation and the economy. These points have been touched on by many recently in the blogosphere and I\u2019m not going to consider this here. I simply wish to reiterate that there is much more we, collectively, in the universities and in government can do to equip students for the world beyond academia in the broadest sense. Our economy rests on far more than just innovation and we won\u2019t have any of the entrepreneurs of tomorrow if we don\u2019t have bright, articulate and accomplished individuals entering the world of teaching, journalism, politics, government and communication (and probably many other career paths too) to inspire and inform them. I do hope if and when BIS seeks to introduce the work experience that both Vitae and Sir Tim Wilson are pushing for, and finds the funds to make such a scheme happen, it will have an appropriately broad view of what \u2018experience\u2019 might include.<\/p>\n<p><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What do students know about life beyond academia? I touched on this in my last post, and this week two reports have been published which are relevant to this theme and the overall \u2018student experience\u2019, loosely interpreted. 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