{"id":2295,"date":"2012-05-06T18:38:15","date_gmt":"2012-05-06T18:38:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/?p=2295"},"modified":"2012-05-06T18:38:15","modified_gmt":"2012-05-06T18:38:15","slug":"collini-and-science","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2012\/05\/06\/collini-and-science\/","title":{"rendered":"Collini and Science"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of months ago <a href=\"http:\/\/www.english.cam.ac.uk\/people\/Collini\/Stefan\/\">Stefan Collini<\/a> published his book \u2018What are Universities for?\u2019 to much interest. This book was reviewed in many places including <a href=\"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/erikacule\/2012\/03\/18\/book-review-stefan-collini-asks-what-are-universities-for\/\">here<\/a> on OT by Erika Cule, although overall the reviews were pretty mixed. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/profile\/peterconrad\">Peter Conrad<\/a> for one, was less than enthusiastic in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/books\/2012\/feb\/19\/what-universities-for-collini-review\">Observer<\/a>, concluding<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What universities are emphatically not for is to subsidise the self-pity of those they employ.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I tend to get around to reading books long after they\u2019ve faded from the best-seller lists, and it would be pointless to add belatedly another review to the myriad already out there written by a variety of distinguished scholars (I use this word advisedly, as I\u2019ll expand on below). However I would like to chip in with my thoughts specifically on Collini\u2019s attitude towards science and scientists, which I found rather dispiriting.<\/p>\n<p>Collini is a colleague of mine, in so far as he is Professor of Intellectual History and English Literature in the University of Cambridge. I have, however, never knowingly met him within the University so I have no first-hand knowledge of the man and I can only judge his attitude towards me and those of my ilk \u2013 viz, scientists \u2013 by the tone of his book. And, much though I can applaud many of the sentiments he expresses about the current assault on education as a public good, I do take grave exception to the constantly rather snide allusions and comments made about scientists in the book. For Collini it would seem that science, because it can be applicable, is also impure and in some senses almost unworthy of its place in a university. He makes a constant point of separating out \u2018scholars\u2019 from \u2018scientists\u2019 as if he is separating the sheep and the goats, or the wheat from the chaff.\u00a0 In which case he clearly equates me with the chaff. I find this disappointing. We are all in this together \u2013 a point he himself makes &#8211; and universities would be the weaker if <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">either<\/span> the humanities or the sciences were somehow suddenly to be seen as dispensable.<\/p>\n<p>I <a href=\"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2011\/05\/22\/science-awareness-and-ignorance\/\">wrote<\/a> some time ago about how I feel the long-standing tension between the humanities and science originally arose in part on class grounds. \u00a0I feel this sentiment lurks throughout the book, with the constant implication that humanities scholars sit on higher ground than us mere scientifically-motivated mortals. We only try to make sense of the \u2018physical world\u2019, as opposed to the aspirations of the humanities scholars who tackle the so-called \u2018human world\u2019 in Collini\u2019s lexicon. I suspect this argument is made more convincing in Collini\u2019s eyes because of all the current anxiety about so-called impact in the context of the REF.\u00a0 This is a subject which absorbs a whole chapter of the book, which is a reproduction of what he <a href=\"http:\/\/entertainment.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/arts_and_entertainment\/the_tls\/article6915986.ece\">wrote<\/a> on the subject in 2009. Many scientists are just as disturbed by some of the ideas underlying impact as Collini and his colleagues and, again, it does no one any favours for him to get huffy because some portion of the work in the sciences undeniably satisfies the simplest interpretation of impact, which is that there is demonstrable contribution to our economy or healthcare. Nevertheless, it is worth bearing in mind that by the end of the 2010 Impact Pilot study, the English panel seemed much more relaxed about the agreed metrics that had been devised than the Physics panel, on which I sat and which continued to express nervousness.<\/p>\n<p>Throughout the book Collini makes it clear that he feels the scientists have it easy in the current REF climate, because their research can be readily shown to have some quantifiable economic value. (although, as scientists know, this isn\u2019t always the case). We then get rehearsed the standard arguments about how you can\u2019t put value on Shakespeare<em> et al<\/em> and an implicit \u2018so it isn\u2019t fair\u2019. Furthermore, that science is upon occasion useful for curing disease, or designing a better widget, is somehow conveyed to be slightly distasteful. Finally, that the sciences get more money for their research (and he makes no attempt to assess what a sensible unit cost of a science project compared with a humanities project might be) is put across as favouring them unduly. That all disciplines <em>should<\/em> in some sense get the same money, regardless of the actual cost, strikes me as bizarre.<\/p>\n<p>The familiar arguments \u2013 which these points touch on &#8211; about \u2018the two cultures\u2019 of science and humanities long predates CP Snow\u2019s Rede Lecture here in Cambridge, as I spelled out in my earlier post. But Collini has something curious to say about this apparent division, which exemplifies my fears about his attitude:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We should not, however, allow this observation about the differences in the public purchase of arguments about the sciences and the humanities to lead us to endorse or reinstate any version of the two cultures\u2019 dichotomy. It is not simply that there is no coherent intellectual basis for this conventional distinction &#8211; not in method or subject-matter or purpose \u2013 but also, more importantly here, that scholars and scientists share more, and have a greater interest in common where the role of universities is concerned, than the hackneyed contrast tends to suggest. Indeed, as a rough rule of thumb one may say that the more distinguished the scientists are at their science, the more readily they acknowledge the shared character of intellectual enquiry and the more willing they are to make common cause with their colleagues in the humanities against various ways of talking (or measuring) that misrepresent this. \u2018Two cultures\u2019 talk has its main current home, as it had its origins, among those who find some kind of cultural insecurity about their identities as scientists or among those who administer science rather than doing it (the two groups are not mutually exclusive). \u2026\u2026In London, the British Academy and the Royal Society are next-door neighbours in the same handsome Regency terrace, with some sharing of their facilities \u2013 a neatly symbolic expression both of the traditional version of the divide and of their joint standing and interest.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sitting, as it were, on the other side of the divide, there are a number of implicit assumptions and issues that trouble me in this paragraph. Here you see an explicit version of Collini\u2019s careful distinction between scientists and scholars. I understand why Collini feels that what he and his colleagues do is not research and should more properly be described as scholarship; indeed in essence he devotes a whole chapter of his book to defending this position. But either we are collectively scholars and researchers, or else we are humanities and STEM people. His distinction seems perverse and conveys, to me at least, a sense of superiority on behalf of the humanities. But then, that\u2019s probably just because I\u2019m a poor undistinguished scientist suffering from cultural insecurity! That single sentence in the paragraph above, containing its veiled contempt for us, is in itself a wonderful way of putting us down, albeit I suspect he may not even be aware that that is implicitly what he is doing. I don\u2019t think he can imagine being on the receiving end of that sentence in reverse.\u00a0 But by saying we have \u2018a great[er] interest in common\u2019, and are \u2018willing to make common cause\u2019 he appears to express the fact that we scientists are meant to be the ones doing the moving to join those righteously placed in the humanities. In practice, I think the science community overall is much more likely to make space in their lives for poetry, art or music than many humanities scholars would for astronomy, geology or zoology \u2013 let alone the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> law of thermodynamics, the familiar example that CP Snow tossed about.<\/p>\n<p>So, Collini is right to ask the question what are universities for, and right to point out in just how many ways the government is asking the impossible of us, and trying to turn us collectively into something that is almost certainly undesirable for the well-being of future generations whilst simultaneously gambling with the education of the present one. But that really is no excuse for operating the implicit divide and rule between disciplines that he seems to have contrived to do, whilst claiming to do the opposite. A wasted opportunity for speaking with a collective voice.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of months ago Stefan Collini published his book \u2018What are Universities for?\u2019 to much interest. This book was reviewed in many places including here on OT by Erika Cule, although overall the reviews were pretty mixed. Peter Conrad &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2012\/05\/06\/collini-and-science\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[488,9],"tags":[122,497,496,498],"class_list":["post-2295","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-book-review-2","category-education","tag-research-2","tag-scholarship","tag-stefan-collini","tag-universities"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2295","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/18"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2295"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2295\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2295"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2295"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2295"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}