{"id":2433,"date":"2012-06-29T19:00:00","date_gmt":"2012-06-29T19:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/?p=2433"},"modified":"2013-01-05T08:33:34","modified_gmt":"2013-01-05T08:33:34","slug":"writing-the-wrong-stuff","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2012\/06\/29\/writing-the-wrong-stuff\/","title":{"rendered":"Writing the Wrong Stuff"},"content":{"rendered":"

Previously on my blog I have discussed both the challenges of writing for different audiences<\/a> and the difficulties for students to get on top of thesis writing <\/a>with little prior experience to help.\u00a0 I have written from the point of view, particularly in the latter context, of seeming to know what is required and with a hope that the student embarking on thesis-writing has somehow picked up the necessary conventions by osmosis or, preferably, a helpful supervisor.\u00a0 However, my recent experience<\/a> with \u2018journalism\u2019 has shown me just how much I myself need good advice when faced with an unfamiliar writing situation.<\/p>\n

In any situation there are always cultural norms which may be visible to an outsider or newcomer to a greater or lesser degree.\u00a0 Hence my comments in the earlier post about the different forms paper titles take in different disciplines, which seem culturally well-established but not necessarily ever explicitly discussed; and I discussed the idea of scientists forming a ‘tribe’, with stylistic conventions newcomers are meant to have an innate grasp of as they write their thesis. I suppose it simply hadn\u2019t crossed my mind that the Guardian\u2019s Comment is Free (CIF) was as susceptible to this pattern as anything else, and I am grateful to (the pseudonymous) Peter Guilliam and Ally Fogg for providing the expert\u2019s view of how CIF operates in comments on my earlier post<\/a> about this topic. It should teach me not to undertake new tasks without carefully scouting the background, albeit time was not on my side for this particular novitiate .<\/p>\n

I have from time to time read CIF, but just about never the comments. To me they have too often smacked of people either rehearsing well-known grievances in disagreement with the article, or been comments tangentially related to the original article and so allowing someone to get a grumble off their chest. Hence, it hadn\u2019t seemed worth studying them in depth. Clearly Ally in particular has done so, and (presumably from trying different strategies) worked out what seems to be the most effective way of dealing with the different kinds of comment. I had felt that, when looking at the comment stream on my own piece, replying could lead me down a path of blind alleys and ever more bitter exchanges; I am pleased to hear that this need not be so if properly managed. Indeed \u2013 according to Ally – that commenters respect the exchanges, given that the tone of some of the original comments implied a distinct lack of respect (I can\u2019t believe it\u2019s common for a self-declared Cambridge physics professor to be told to go and spend more time with scientists so as to learn something about their world).<\/p>\n

Nevertheless I have learned more from the experience than simply receiving advice as to how to respond to what I now know is called BTL (below the line) comments. I have learned that writing about something which could fill a book in a mere 550 words, without introducing ambiguity or accidentally assuming prior knowledge of context or fact, was beyond me in 18 hours. This isn\u2019t merely a problem of pr\u00e9cis, reducing the word count to that which space permits, so much as having sufficiently vigilant eyes to spot where background information is being taken for granted or I am using a word in ways that not everyone else does. In trying to write an article for people beyond the readership I\u2019ve grown used to on this blog, I probably didn\u2019t spend long enough working out what is common knowledge and what isn\u2019t. If I complain not all students understand when writing a paper for the first time that the structure should be clearly defined and have a beginning, a middle and an end, then equally I failed in realising that when trying to write a short piece I shouldn\u2019t try to squeeze in multiple arguments. In this case I attempted to cover the overall culture (macho, particularly when use of that term in itself led to so much misinterpretation) plus<\/span> different disciplines not all being the same (when I had no space to give the relevant statistics for different stages of the career pathway) plus<\/span> using a quote from\u00a0 study where the lack of qualification about the quote misled people. I think the correct hashtag (for twitter users) to apply at this stage would be #epicfail.<\/p>\n

However what I take away is, just because I got a B- on my first attempt I shouldn\u2019t give up. New challenges are just that, challenges, but one is never too old to learn new tricks despite the old adage. I have learnt some interesting facts that I had never had occasion to contemplate before. I would like to think I can do better if a further opportunity were ever to come my way. It is interesting that Peter Guilliam feels I could just pitch to the Guardian for another slot, but I suspect I won\u2019t be rushing off to do that just yet. I may feel this was a less than perfect outcome, but I most certainly do not regret the taking part. And, the bottom line is perhaps I shouldn\u2019t care anyhow. Just getting folks beyond the usual suspects to contemplate the issue is a plus. That is the great thing about having space in a mass circulation paper. Random people from different walks of life may just briefly have glanced at it and thought about their own daughters, or children of friends or colleagues, and for an instant thought \u2018is that world as good as it can be in letting them fulfil their dreams, and if not why not?\u2019<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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