{"id":6288,"date":"2022-01-23T20:38:07","date_gmt":"2022-01-23T19:38:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/?p=6288"},"modified":"2022-01-23T20:38:07","modified_gmt":"2022-01-23T19:38:07","slug":"strong-women-wise-words","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2022\/01\/23\/strong-women-wise-words\/","title":{"rendered":"Strong Women, Wise Words"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today I read two interviews with academic leaders, strong women both working in decidedly male-dominated fields. Their experiences are salutary and their advice worth taking to heart, much of it applying regardless of gender.<\/p>\n<p>Firstly, and more famously at least in the UK, was an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/business\/2022\/jan\/22\/minouche-shafik-the-idea-that-you-are-successful-because-you-are-hardworking-is-pernicious\">interview<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lse.ac.uk\/about-lse\/meet-the-director\">Minouche Shafik<\/a>, the Egyptian-born economist and Director of LSE. Economics is a notoriously male-dominated discipline. I was struck by the comments <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chu.cam.ac.uk\/people\/view\/diane-coyle\/\">Diane Coyle<\/a> made about the subject in her recent book <em><a href=\"https:\/\/press.princeton.edu\/books\/hardcover\/9780691210599\/cogs-and-monsters\">Cogs and Monsters<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2018Economics stands out as one of the least diverse disciplines, even as it wields great practical influence, particularly over government policies that affect everyone in society. The subject\u2019s gender and ethnicity record is unacceptable.\u2019<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In my own research into the problems of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.timeshighereducation.com\/opinion\/academic-publishing-must-do-better-gender\">gender bias in publishing<\/a>, the most striking <a href=\"https:\/\/www.erinhengel.com\/research\/publishing_female.pdf\">evidence<\/a> I ever came across was from Economics, not from any of the sciences (see also <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tandfonline.com\/doi\/full\/10.1080\/13504851.2019.1644420\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/voxeu.org\/article\/gender-neutrality-economics-role-editors-and-referees\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Minouche is under no illusions about the burdens on women in modern society. She is quoted as saying in the Guardian interview<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2018&#8230; the way our whole social contract was predicated on women looking after the young and the old for free \u2013 now there are more women going to university than men, globally, not just in the UK, and they are employed, and the cost of them not working is really high, so you want them to work. Yet we haven\u2019t found a way to adjust \u2013 a way to look after the young and old without women providing free labour.&#8217;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As has been made only too clear, the pandemic has made the situation worse, in academia as elsewhere, with the evidence steadily accumulating, on publications and in just about every other part of our professional lives. My concern is that <a href=\"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/athenedonald\/2021\/03\/14\/how-are-universities-supporting-those-worst-affected-by-the-pandemic\/\">this will continue to play out for years<\/a>, the disadvantage of these years never being eradicated on those who\u2019ve had to take the domestic load.<\/p>\n<p>The other point that strongly resonated with me in her interview regards the role of luck versus intrinsic merit in an individual\u2019s life. She says<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8216;The idea that you are successful because you are smart and hardworking is pernicious and wrong, because it means everyone who is unsuccessful is stupid and lazy&#8217;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Luck impacts on all of us: the good fortune of which family you were born into, when and where to start with. Of course, they always say you make your own luck, but if you are born into war-torn Sarajevo, your circumstances are necessarily going to be rather different from being born into a family that can pack you off to Eton. Merit is not the distinguishing mark between two such children. It behoves us never to forget this. Even two kids born in the same London borough may have utterly different life chances due to their different social capital. Many people have noted this \u2013 widening participation is, for instance, part of Churchill College\u2019s bread and butter as they examine admissions \u2013 but overcoming these disadvantages is never helped by those academics who somehow believe (as I fear some do) that their successes are purely and solely down to their great intrinsic ability and willingness to work hard.<\/p>\n<p>The second <a href=\"https:\/\/www.timeshighereducation.com\/people\/interview-rama-govindarajan\">interview<\/a> was in the THE with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icts.res.in\/people\/rama-govindarajan\">Rama Govindarajan<\/a>, who is dean of the International Centre for Theoretical Sciences at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.timeshighereducation.com\/world-university-rankings\/tata-institute-fundamental-research\" data-mz=\"\" data-module=\"article-uni-link\">Tata Institute of Fundamental Research<\/a> in Bangalore. She studies monsoons and is an expert in fluid dynamics. Trained as a chemical engineer, she was the only woman in a class of about 54 in chemical engineering in the Indian Institute of Technology Delhi. However, she was not going to let a little thing like that stop her.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8216;In the olden days, gender bias was more explicit. My school and teachers tried to make me \u201cladylike\u201d and to focus more on homemaking skills than on other subjects. I\u00a0learned to rebel against the former and benefit from the latter. Decades ago, I\u00a0faced discrimination in terms of unfair job and promotion interviews, in being blocked from facilities and opportunities available to\u00a0men, and once in a while in comments from colleagues. I\u00a0learned the art of repartee, to fight directly for my rights, and did win some of these battles. It\u00a0made me braver and more confident.&#8217;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Many women will recognize that \u2018blocking\u2019 she describes, often intangibly hard to put one\u2019s finger on, just the sense that things hadn\u2019t turned out for you, as a woman, the same way as for the bloke on the next bench, or who was sitting next to you waiting for an interview. That intangible disadvantage is likely to apply whether or not you can (and are willing) to master ladylike behaviour; I\u2019m sure I\u2019ve not managed to tick all those boxes. Bias is subtle now, as opposed to the explicit gender bias Govindarajan encountered early on, but it doesn\u2019t make it any less real.<\/p>\n<p>Govindarajan now has a major academic leadership role, and continues to speak up on these issues.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2018In these [meetings] and elsewhere, I strongly advocate for speaking up and speaking out against sexual harassment and against unfairness. I speak for equality and symmetry of treatment.\u2019<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>She believes the family is the place to start, stating that daughters-in-law have a particularly hard time in India. I suspect cultural aspects make that more important there than perhaps in the West, but equality should be equality everywhere.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, when asked what she would like to be remembered for, she says it\u2019s for her training of students and postdocs. I\u2019m sure that is something that will strike a chord with many readers. We can\u2019t always know what impact we have had far down the line, when students may have gone off into very different spheres and contact has been lost, but it is always moving when someone \u2013 be they still a scientist or not \u2013 reminds you of what you\u2019ve done for them. I had just such an instance this weekend, and I\u2019m very grateful to hear that my advice meant this former student \u2018felt less alone\u2019. Life continues to be tough for all of us, but reading these interviews should remind all of us that life is rarely easy, whatever one\u2019s background, luck or skill, but good things can transpire. Furthermore, that each of us can make a positive difference to someone less well placed than ourselves and to wider society around us.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today I read two interviews with academic leaders, strong women both working in decidedly male-dominated fields. Their experiences are salutary and their advice worth taking to heart, much of it applying regardless of gender. 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