{"id":196,"date":"2009-01-17T17:17:26","date_gmt":"2009-01-17T15:17:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/boboh\/2009\/01\/17\/semi_live_blogging_scienceonline09_day_1\/"},"modified":"2009-01-17T17:17:26","modified_gmt":"2009-01-17T15:17:26","slug":"semi_live_blogging_scienceonline09_day_1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/boboh\/2009\/01\/17\/semi_live_blogging_scienceonline09_day_1\/","title":{"rendered":"Semi-live Blogging Scienceonline09: Day 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The formal part of the meeting has begun.  The wireless network here is dodgy, but we&#8217;re struggling through.  I&#8217;ll update this post throughout the day.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nFirst up was a session on open access &#8211; Bill Hooker advocating, without really getting to the issues (and his graphs were awful.  Sorry!).  the usual issues were tossed around.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m presently sat in a discussion about rhetoric in online science.  One interesting point that was raised is that the role of an editor online isn&#8217;t well established: authorship is settled, but the filtering and improvement hasn&#8217;t been thought through.<br \/>\nBoa raised the idea that science online will be read by non-scientists &#8211; and asked whether this will change the rhetoric of papers so that they are more accessible.  The chairman suggested that blogs are a different way of providing a more popular take of the literature.<br \/>\nWe&#8217;re discussing science outreach: papers are unreadable for the public, but that&#8217;s the main currency of professional science.  What do we do?  What makes it worse is that there is little incentive for outreach.<br \/>\n<strong>Later<\/strong>: We&#8217;re now in the scientific editing session, with Henry and Peter from PLoS.  We&#8217;ve just had the explanation of how journal prices are set &#8211; a major part is &#8220;follow Elsevier&#8221;&#8230;.<br \/>\nNow Henry (Gee) has just started with a short snippet from <em>The Charge of the NPG Brigade<\/em>.<br \/>\nThe first question: is the Nature office cold and smelly?<br \/>\nHow to get a job as an editor: accept their invite to go to the bar (this from both Henry and Peter).<br \/>\n<strong>Even later<\/strong>: The blog carnivals session was good.  It&#8217;s something I should be getting in to more (I&#8217;ve volunteered to host the Praxis carnival in March, though).  Mike did a <a href=\"http:\/\/10000birds.com\/talking-blog-carnivals-at-scienceonline09.htm\">nice job of taking us through the whys and hows<\/a>, and will put some posts and links up either on 10000 birds or the <a href=\"http:\/\/natureblognetwork.com\/blog\/\">Nature Blog Network blog<\/a>.<br \/>\nThe final session was about social networking for scientists.  Cameron and Dipak argued that most social networks for scientists aren&#8217;t working terribly well, and kicked around a bunch of thoughts without coming to any firm conclusions.  <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/people\/U66E7CD1A\/profile\">Corrie<\/a> was making a lot of notes.  It looks like NN is the best network presently (yay us!), but it still needs to do a bit of work to become really useful for scientists.  I guess these things will be discussed around here in the near future.  I had a chat to Corrie over coffee, and There Are Plans.  We might even get a better blogging platform this decade.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s it for today, other than eating and drinking.  I <em>won&#8217;t<\/em> be live-blogging that, I&#8217;m afraid.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The formal part of the meeting has begun. The wireless network here is dodgy, but we&#8217;re struggling through. 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