{"id":239,"date":"2009-03-17T21:46:21","date_gmt":"2009-03-17T21:46:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/2009\/03\/17\/ontology_3\/"},"modified":"2009-03-17T21:46:21","modified_gmt":"2009-03-17T21:46:21","slug":"ontology_3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/2009\/03\/17\/ontology_3\/","title":{"rendered":"Ontology #3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>bq. And&#8230; Eva&#8217;s thoughtful <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/people\/rpg\/blog\/2009\/03\/17\/ontology-2#comment-31953\">comment<\/a> deserves a response from me. This was going to be a comment, but seeing as it was quite on-topic for the title I gave it its own space.<\/p>\n<p>\nI did wonder if posting this <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/people\/rpg\/blog\/2009\/03\/16\/ontology\">story<\/a> and those <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/people\/rpg\/blog\/2009\/03\/17\/ontology-2\">pictures<\/a> in this forum was appropriate. But seeing as I blog about a scientist&#8217;s life as well as science itself, and I&#8217;d already established a <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/people\/rpg\/blog\/2009\/03\/12\/on-holiday\">bit<\/a> of a <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/people\/rpg\/blog\/2009\/03\/15\/onamalutu\">travelogue<\/a>, I thought why not? I thought, briefly, that I might offend someone but that&#8217;s never stopped me before\u2014seriously, I&#8217;m happy being carnivorous and I&#8217;m happy knowing where meat comes from. <\/p>\n<p>\nYes, there was a thrill in the tracking, the chase, and the kill (all of them). The adrenaline was pumping and\u2014somewhat ironically, perhaps\u2014I felt <em>alive<\/em>. I enjoyed it. But I wouldn&#8217;t have been doing it if I didn&#8217;t know that (a) we were controlling vermin and (b) someone was going to eat the animals we killed. (b) was more important to me than (a), for what it&#8217;s worth.<\/p>\n<p>\nAnd this has stirred a few dormant neurons: Killing for food is fine by me (morally, I mean). But how about letting others kill animals for me, and me going to the butcher&#8217;s and saying &#8216;I&#8217;ll have that prime steak there, please&#8217;? In that case I&#8217;m not taking the responsibility for the animal, although I&#8217;m quite happy for the moral questions (and the gore and the effort) to be abstracted. Is that inconsistent?<\/p>\n<p>\nPossibly. I&#8217;ve demonstrated that I&#8217;m quite able\u2014and happy\u2014to acquire my own food, even if it is fluffy and cute. But the great advance that we as humans have made is to sub-contract the business of staying alive to other people. We make an industry of agriculture, and with the <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/people\/UE19877E8\/blog\/2009\/02\/21\/in-which-i-ponder-economies-of-scale\">economies of scale<\/a> that brings, the freedom from the tyranny of the struggle for survival, we are free to do more productive things (like wasting time on Nature Network).<\/p>\n<p>\nSo, morally, that&#8217;s an interesting one. If you aren&#8217;t prepared to kill animals yourself for food, but will let others do it for you, should you eat meat? I&#8217;d say &#8216;yes&#8217;, because you&#8217;re participating in a social contract that allows you, <em>frees<\/em> you to do more interesting things, like discover black holes and evolution and the Haber Process and write blog posts about it. <\/p>\n<p>\nBut I&#8217;m willing to have my mind changed\u2014it just won&#8217;t stop me eating meat. And before you ask, yes my girls know where food comes from: they&#8217;ve caught their own fish, they collect eggs from the chickens, and I&#8217;m (hopefully) taking Rachel out soon to shoot and cook her own rabbit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>bq. And&#8230; Eva&#8217;s thoughtful comment deserves a response from me. This was going to be a comment, but seeing as it was quite on-topic for the title I gave it its own space. I did wonder if posting this story &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/2009\/03\/17\/ontology_3\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-239","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/239","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=239"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/239\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=239"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=239"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=239"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}