{"id":84,"date":"2008-03-05T10:22:57","date_gmt":"2008-03-05T10:22:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/2008\/03\/05\/feedback\/"},"modified":"2008-03-05T10:22:57","modified_gmt":"2008-03-05T10:22:57","slug":"feedback","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/2008\/03\/05\/feedback\/","title":{"rendered":"Feedback"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;d like to take this opportunity to give feedback on the feedback that the students gave on their feedback.<\/p>\n<p>\nWith me? No?<\/p>\n<p>\nThe Honours students gave their proposal talks last week. A random <a href=\"http:\/\/network.nature.com\/blogs\/user\/rpg\/2008\/02\/29\/on-the-care-and-training-of-students\">panel<\/a> of academics assessed and made written comments that were passed on to the students on Monday.  The students in turn had their own comments about the talks and the feedback process.<\/p>\n<p>\nThey brought up three things:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>They feel rather humiliated if their supervisor &#8216;answers&#8217; a question for them<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nThis point is completely fair.  If a supervisor feels the need to answer a question on behalf of a student, then (assuming the student hasn&#8217;t completely frozen) this betrays a lack of confidence in the student, or even the project itself (and I&#8217;m not going to expand on that here, he said, darkly).<\/p>\n<p>\nIt&#8217;s part of the training: the student must be able to fend for themself, and, ultimately, make mistakes and live with them.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>They feel embarrassed if academics start to &#8216;squabble&#8217; with each other over issues raised in their presentation<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nThis one is less clear-cut.  Rightly or wrongly, academics in seminars will disagree with each other, vocally and at length, while the speaker stands there like a lemon.  Often you will find that certain antagonists have hated each other for years, and their feud spills over into public fora.<\/p>\n<p>\nMy advice?  Either stand there looking amused or say something like &#8220;Maybe you two can talk about this later?&#8221;  Coming from a student, that would be surprisingly effective.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>They really appreciate it when academics write legibly<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nFair cop, guv.  In our defence I will say that when you have 7 or 8 talks per session, it&#8217;s dark, and there isn&#8217;t much room on the form, copperplate can go right out the window.<\/p>\n<p>\nBesides, would you trust a doctor with legible handwriting?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;d like to take this opportunity to give feedback on the feedback that the students gave on their feedback. With me? No? The Honours students gave their proposal talks last week. A random panel of academics assessed and made written &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/2008\/03\/05\/feedback\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-84","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=84"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=84"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=84"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/occamstypewriter.org\/rpg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=84"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}