On Science Blogging 2008—Part 3

This is the third of three posts detailing my experience of the Science Blogging Conference held at the Royal Institution, London, on 30th August. You can also read Parts “one”:http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg/2008/09/11/on-science-blogging-2008—part-1 and “two”:http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg/2008/09/12/on-science-blogging-2008—part-2.
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Challenging assumptions

In the final session of the day, I participated in a ‘wrap-up’ panel. I felt seriously young and under-dressed in my shorts. Li-Kim wanted to hide me behind a table, but I got my revenge.
LK treats RPG

For me, the major theme of the day had been about challenging our assumptions. Science blogging is not a mainstream activity, and is still viewed with suspicion by many more senior scientists and PIs. This seems odd given that we are encouraged to discuss new data at meetings and conferences. There is perhaps a feeling that blogging should not be done on the company dollar; and even that personal time spent blogging should rather be spent in the lab (although no one, for example, seems to care if you play sport during the day).

The example of the University of Sydney, which encourages its staff to write blogs, was quite unusual even among the somewhat select audience on the day. It illustrates that authority does not always automatically disapprove of blogging (as members of the first panel discovered). Even so, it is noteworthy that Arts & Humanities blogs at the University vastly outnumber those written by scientists, and that non-science academics do not seem to worry about their reputation being damaged by blogging.

Many people were concerned about whether blogs could be made to count towards CV points or how scientists might get credit for blogging, whether they are ‘citable objects’ and how references to papers from blog entries could be incorporated in impact factors. The idea of primacy (‘first to claim’) versus final publication was discussed, and compared with examples of people being ‘scooped’ from poster sessions at conferences. The main argument against blogs being a citable unit is that they currently lack consensual authority (despite the peer review aspect mentioned in the keynote speech). Blogs are generally seen as discussions rather than the syntheses of data or claims that are usually published in journals.

Questions were asked about objectively judging the quality of blogs, but there are too many problems with counting page hits, comments and incoming links to provide a satisfactory answer.

I think that the thing we should and can challenge people to do is to get senior faculty in their department to keep a weblog. That has a defined outcome and we can set the deadline …[1]

Finally, we thought about barriers to the respectability and take-up of (science) blogs. We challenged the audience to encourage eminent and/or senior scientists to start and keep a blog, with the intent of improving acceptance and credibility among the wider scientific community. There were two incentives offered: the chance to be featured in The Open Laboratory : The Best Science Writing on Blogs), and an expenses-paid trip to Scifoo 2009.

The use of blogs by scientists is still in its infancy. Scientists who blog often suspect that they are not taken seriously by their peers and superiors, although it is not clear to what extent this perception is borne out in reality. There is great potential for the use of blogs in teaching, collaboration and outreach, although issues of credibility and respectability need to be addressed. Blogging and related technology is already very powerful, as evidenced by the ‘meta-discussions’ that took place (and are still underway two weeks later). The main strength of blogging is in the ability to have one’s ideas challenged and refined, to have multi-disciplinary and trans-global conversations through the commenting mechanism.

Many agreed that just as email was initially considered a frivolous pursuit (or just for geeks) that has since become indispensable, blogging will likewise increase in importance and acceptability. Moreover, blogging is being recognized as a tool that is used for several different activities (outreach, teaching, collaboration, self-improvement etc.) rather than merely an end in itself.

One University stood out in its progressive attitude to blogging. The University of Sydney paid for one of its bloggers to attend the conference in London. This fact drew gasps of amazement from the audience when it was revealed. The University actively encourages blogging. Blogs dot USYD is their showcase for their staff blogs and blogs are encouraged to help support research and projects. Cite

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And that’s all, folks.

Post-conference, many people on Nature Network found themselves deluged with ‘xxx has been added to your network’ notifications. That was probably one of the major benefits of the conference; finally being able to meet all these people we’d only read in pixels and shades of grey. New contacts still trickle in, two weeks later.

This is rather touching. I commented along these lines on the weblog of one of my new contacts, and she replied One of the powers of blogging (or writing, for that matter) is the level of empathy it can raise between oneself and complete strangers… I find it beautiful and scary at once. The power of weblogs to bring people together was not really talked about in the formal sessions of the conference, although Anna did touch on in it in the first panel. If I were in the mood I could write about humans as social creatures, and how this is just another iteration of the watering hole/cave mouth fire/pub that we seem to be drawn to, more surely than moths to the porch light. But maybe someone more skilled than me would like to think about that.

I have not heard from my Dean yet, but my Head of Department said

It seems to have been a roaring success. I am intrigued by the notions of blog publication as you go and the minimal publishable unit.

So maybe I’ll see you all,–and more!–next year?

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fn1. From an email sent to Cameron on 1st August 2008

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14 Responses to On Science Blogging 2008—Part 3

  1. Massimo Pinto says:

    Count me in.

  2. David Crotty says:

    —Many agreed that just as email was initially considered a frivolous pursuit (or just for geeks)—
    I’ve seen this assertion used many times in articles encouraging scientists to blog, and it still surprises me. Back in grad school in the late 1980’s, we were excited to get e-mail access and encouraged to use it for scientific communication. If anything the frustrating part was that not everyone had access yet, rather than some community view that it was frivolous. Perhaps my department and university were just prescient, or perhaps we were a bunch of geeks, but I can’t recall a single scientist ranting about e-mail being frivolous. Is this revisionist history, or did others out there in science have a very different experience than I did?

  3. Martin Fenner says:

    David, you are right about the perception of email about 15 years ago. The WWW was another story, here usefulness and frivolity were much closer together.

  4. Frank Norman says:

    I think it was not so much that scientists thought it was frivolous, but that administrators and heads of department did not understand how useful it could be. I recall that my boss told me that fax was so much more useful to him.
    I agree Martin, the web was more contentious. The MRC’s head of IT took a bit of persuading that an MRC web page was something worth having.

  5. Graham Steel says:

    The MRC’s head of IT took a bit of persuading that an MRC web page was something worth having.
    Thats, err, flabbergasting Frank.

  6. Henry Gee says:

    It was ever thus. In his book The Hacker Crackdown, a history of telephony, Bruce Sterling gives an account of the arrival of the first telephone at the telegraph office in a small town in the Midwest. The whole town turns out to admire the device, even the mayor, who, in a fit of prolepsis, opines that someday in the future, every town in America would have one.

  7. Richard P. Grant says:

    Yah, I think the WWW rather than email would have been a better choice. We are geeks, though, and our opinions are not mainstream, so maybe not.
    Anyways, now I have to find a decent mugshot for a School news item. Oh Pooh, said Hum.

  8. Nathaniel Marshall says:

    I can’t get the university of sydney to post me a textbook from the library through the internal mail system and you can somehow con them into posting you half-way round the world and back?
    I clearly doing something wrong.

  9. Richard P. Grant says:

    It’s my silver-tongued charm, obviously.

  10. Mike Seyfang says:

    Richard,
    Im heading of to USYD for a short consult next week and would love to meet the people behind http://blogs.usyd.edu.au/support/getblog.shtml . Can you point me in the right direction?
    Any other people / groups enlightened in the way of social media I could / should meet while Im there??
    Thanks in advance.
    Fang – Mike Seyfang
    (aka the extraordinary.thepodcastnetwork.com dude)

  11. Richard P. Grant says:

    ha ha ha
    Oh gosh.
    Now that I’ve had my USyd UniKey access revoked (‘cos I left) I can say:
    They’re useless, there is no one.

  12. Maxine Clarke says:

    Hope you are not relying on them for your pension payments, Richard! Can one ever “leave”?

  13. Richard P. Grant says:

    Actually, yes. I’m taking my pension with me…

  14. Maxine Clarke says:

    Oh, you got them to give it to you before you left? Sounds like a good plan, in view of your views on their competence!

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